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Comment worth noting: It might be too late for some American communities

Posted by Ann Corcoran on March 25, 2017

Editor:  This is a comment from reader ‘Seneca the Elder’ posted 4 days ago in response to this post.  I apologize for the late posting, I’ve been distracted by a family health issue (trying to squeeze in reading and posting between playing nurse).

From ‘Seneca the Elder’ “…it is kind of too late”

There have been a lot of missteps by the Trump administration when it comes to “refugees” aka invaders/migrants/barbarians/Third Worlders.

I understand that they have a lot on their plates, but immigration is probably THE most important issue for a lot of people. Especially those of us who live in or near a sanctuary city. Just yesterday I was walking around the one near me. Here I was in affluent Westchester County, walking around a small city that looked like it was in the slums of Ecuador or Guatemala. In violation of the City codes, the signs were in Spanish, not English. Judging by all the dish antennas on the roof and other parts of the houses, there were obviously half a dozen families living in many of the small, single family homes. The building inspectors and city employees are afraid of being called racists so they allow all the violations even though there have been fires where people lost their lives.

There are no more cute boutiques or specialty shops because all the store fronts have been taken by barber shops, dollar stores and hair salons (another zoning violation to have to many on one block) that are fronts for gambling, drug dealing and prostitution. Oh, and the roosters that you hear crowing in the distance are not from any farm- they are the ones the “immigrants” use for cock fighting, which has also made a comeback.

Sure, it’s not a no go zone like they have in Europe, but there are many blocks that I hesitate to walk down because of all the cat calls and nasty remarks made by the able bodied young men who hang around the barber shops which seem to be their main gathering place. It must be a third world cultural thing that these thugs are all getting their hair cut at 10-11 pm at night-there’s a lot of action at the barber shops for sure.

Most of the older families of Italian, Irish, Polish and European descent have left for the neighboring small towns where English is still the main language and the schools are better.

The liberal Dems who still live in the little city proudly send their kids to schools that are now 90% Hispanic and English is of course a second language. Taxes have gone up significantly to pay for all the help that the third world children and their parents need. I love it when I go to the local supermarket during the day and I see the wonderful families lined up to pay for their groceries. There’s young able bodied “dad”, young pregnant “mom” one kid in the carriage and another toddler holding on. Their hundreds of dollars worth of groceries are easily paid for with the latest benefit card that my tax dollars support.

So even if Trump & Co.. do everything right from here on out, for many places, even in our President’s own back yard, it’s kind of too late.

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21 Responses to “Comment worth noting: It might be too late for some American communities”

  1. haughnmom@aol.com said

    Dear Ann, Is there any place left where one can hunker down and help push back.? ie..city, community involvement .? My husband and I are going to travel this wonderful county with our trailer.We hope to educate and help communities in any way we can, I always post your site on F.B. refer to it as Pay-Dirt.. You are such a blessing to me and thousands.I hope to meet you one day..Hope you have the time to reply.. My Very Best, Cindy Haughn

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    • Ann Corcoran said

      I tell people that the only state not participating at all in the US Refugee Admissions Program is Wyoming. That said, the Republican gov. there tried to get the program up and running a couple of years ago, but citizens pushed back hard. Let me know if you find some pockets in which to hunker down. Maybe because it is near me, and some good people are pushing back, West Virginia holds some appeal.

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  2. caroleza said

    Interesting perspective but what about the perspective of the immigrants? There’s always two sides to the coin.

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    • 7delta said

      Caroleza, what do you think the immigrants’ perspective is? Are you referring to illegal aliens, refugees, other immigrants or all immigrants, regardless of immigration status or method by which they arrived?

      I’m interested in your perspective and would like to know what you think about a few questions I have about the immigrant’s perspective. I do, of course, think immigrants have a perspective, but I’d appreciate your thoughts, so I can understand your comment better. Examples of what would help me are below:

      What do immigrants hope to gain or accomplish here? Do they come to assimilate and be American or do they believe that such expectations infringe on their rights? If so, what right do they believe is being infringed by the expectation and requirement that immigrants come legally, then assimilate into American culture, laws and be able to communicate in English? Are there limits to all rights? Where is the line?

      Do immigrants have a right to establish “a country within a country?” What are the advantages or ramifications of different groups establishing segregated communities? Are segregated communities subject to the same State and federal laws as everyone else or should they be allowed to establish parallel legal systems? How would such parallel legal systems impact American citizens who aren’t members of their community and the overall Rule of Law, which is premised on equal justice? Even though man is flawed and sometimes doesn’t reach such equality in meting out justice, should the struggle to reach and maintain equal justice be abandoned? If so, what political theory do you believe should replace it?

      Constitutionally, who has the authority to determine immigration or entrance into the country or if we even allow immigration, at any given time, and who has the responsibility for enforcing the laws? Do you believe the Constitution bestows rights to aliens on foreign soil to enter or immigrate into this country? All power must have an origin. If you or they believe they have such rights to immigrate, what sovereign power has the authority to bestow Constitutional rights outside U.S. jurisdiction?

      Finally, do you believe the Constitution is the Law of the Land and do you believe it’s a living and breathing document, subject to alterations by individual States, Congress, the judiciary or the executive to suit “the times”, as they see it, or is it a set Rule of Law that can only be amended by the process outlined in the Constitution? What are the advantages and disadvantages of both schools of thought and how does it impact immigration?

      Thank you, Caroleza. I look forward to reading your thoughts.

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      • It’s important to keep in mind that the illegal aliens are just that illegal aliens! An immigrant is a person who comes legally An alien who does not come legally is not an immigrantWe should treat illegal Mexican immigrants Aliens rather than immigrants AZ felons just as Mexico law Treats Latino rather than who come seeking sanctuary Refuge or just plain work

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        • caroleza said

          A legal immigrant is in all official documents a legal alien. You’re not given an immigrant # when you immigrate legally. You’re given an alien #. So your point is irrelevant.

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        • 7delta said

          Thank you, Hecataeusanonymous. If you recall in my post, I asked Caroleza to clarify whether she distinguished between the categories of people entering the U.S.

          I’m sure you’ve noticed that media, politicians and pro-open-borders activists conflate all entrants as immigrants and cast them all as legitimate, without distinction of whether they entered or remained legally or whether they are suitable for immigration, either due to an ideological incompatibility, thereby presenting significant national security risks, or they have criminal records or carry communicable diseases.

          This conflation is always part of the argument that “we’re a nation of immigrants”, as if that disqualifies the U.S. or citizens from any moral or legal objections to open borders, visa overstays, visa lotteries, limiting and appropriately vetting people who request, or are offered, legal immigration status.

          The rest of my questions are pretty self-evident. I was curious about how she views the immigrants’ perspective and her view in relation to the prevailing laws and the perspective of citizens who are witnessing, and feel burdened by, the consequences of excessive immigration of all stripes.

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      • caroleza said

        Thank you 7delta for the thoughtful reply, refreshing in a world of online attacks and thoughtless name-calling.
        Let me start by saying that while I believe immigration is a national topic (should be dealt with on a federal not states scale), the humanitarian side of immigration & deportations should be considered as well. Treating somebody like trash because they weren’t born here is unacceptable, even when executing the law. You don’t pat infringers on the back but you also don’t steal their belongings or beat them or hold them in a cell for a long period of time unnecessarily (all of these have been reported regarding border patrol).

        When I mentioned immigrants perspective, I mean all immigrants, anyone who was not born in the United States and who lived somewhere else up to that point but who decided to reside in the United States on the long term. These people’s children do not speak English as the primary language. True, they should be integrated and start speaking English, and true that not all schools allow for the switch to English at this point, but to put them in an all-English class (unless they’re in preschool) sets them back compared to native English speakers. The parents want the children to get an education so they can grow up and become doctors and lawyers and mathematicians and entrepreneurs. Not providing Spanish-speaking teachers for all classes only puts an unnecessary barrier in the children’s way. Plus, it puts a barrier in communication between the parents and the teachers and guidance counselors (Parents won’t learn English in a day. It takes years to learn a language.)

        Immigrants, like non-immigrants, hope to live a good, steady life and provide great things for their children. Many of them come for financial reasons; their home country’s economy or unemployment rates pushed them away, and the US’s economy and what they heard about employment opportunities pulled them in. They do not immigrate with the intention to subvert American morals or overthrow the Republican government or make Spanish the official language of the land. They do not come to live in a bubble or in a country within a country with a parallel healthcare, educational, and legal system (I don’t agree with a parallel anything system. That stands against equality.). They do not come (at least the Hispanic immigrants) to spread their culture, religion, and lifestyle to America. They’re not motivated by any preacher, religious, social, moral, or political belief to go on a crusade to remove America from America. In fact, many if not most of the Hispanic immigrants see themselves as already American (not in reference to USA but to the Americas). They do know they’re foreigners and are not originally from the US but their goal is neither assimilation nor lack thereof. Their aim is to have a better life and provide one for their families.
        The way language works immigrants will learn English, some more than others. Some might be able to understand but not speak. Some might be able to only speak 2 words. Some may never learn. But others will. Some will already know English from studying it in school in their native country, others will learn it here, others will depend on their bilingual children for translation. It’s just easier to speak to people who come from your native country in your native language. And part of it is that many of them, after moving to the US, decide they want to do both: assimilate and preserve their cultural heritage. So they open bakeries and stores and grocery stores and they do their best to preserve the language for their children and children’s children. After all, the latter two have an advantage. Many Americans speak don’t speak Spanish, many Hispanics don’t speak English; they can speak both.

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        • domstudent11 said

          I think part of the problem with immigration is the sheer numbers of immigrants coming to the U.S. making assimilation difficult. A CIS study last year found that 61 million immigrants reside in the U.S. (45.3 million legal, 15.7 million illegal). Besides legal immigrants, there are tens of thousands of refugees (plus their families), foreigners on visas, plus illegals — certainly far more than the 11 million figure that has been thrown out for at least 10 years.The impact on communities — schools especially, taxpayer-funded social services, housing, jobs — is immense. If immigration numbers were lower, as advocated by NumbersUSA, you wouldn’t see all these issues.

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          • caroleza said

            I don’t know the stats in other countries, however I do know that integration & assimilation is an important issue in other countries as well. I think it’s partly the fear of the unknown or of the “other”, on both sides, that makes the process so hard.
            Yes there’s many immigrants, but keep in mind that this country has more land than most countries. In other words, if the right opportunities are created in lesser populated areas, immigrants might move, easing the load on the other cities.
            I think that a solid, fair, non-discriminatory temporary working visa system might alleviate the load too, if it provides fair wages that would allow non-residents to go back and forth to their home country.

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          • domstudent11 said

            I don’t think it is the fear of the unknown. It is the huge burden on taxpayers when overwhelming numbers of needy immigrants overwhelm their schools and communities. If immigrants were self-supporting and contributing instead of taking tax dollars, the issues would be reduced. Unfortunately, most immigrants (especially illegal immigrants) are a drain on taxpayers because they use more social services than legal residents. When you factor in a bad economy where legal citizens are losing jobs, seeing their salaries stagnate, and health costs skyrocket, to expect taxpayers to willingly fork over more money for immigrants who don’t need to be here (or shouldn’t in the case of illegals) is unrealistic.

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          • domstudent11 said

            Caroleza, I don’t think it is the fear of the unknown. It is the numbers.Even a country as large as the U.S. cannot absorb millions of immigrants every year without it affecting the citizen population. Immigrants (both legal and illegal) generally work for lower wages, which brings down salaries for everyone, so it does not benefit current U.S. citizens. Remember: immigration policies are supposed to benefit the CURRENT citizens. Right now, massive immigration (both legal and illegal) does NOT.

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  3. The USA being so large is a mixed blessing: it allows people to easily move away from negative demographic changes, and make it a future generation’s problem. The time to make a stand is NOW

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    • Ann Corcoran said

      Very good point! And, if you happen to live in a community that is not a target to be changed (yet!) you have no idea what is happening elsewhere unless you read (or listen to) alternative media.

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  4. petzlx said

    This trojan horse invasion by Moslems was invented by Mohammad when he and his marauding followers fled Mecca in 622 AD to Yathrib now called Medina. Claiming “refugee status” Medina welcomed them as “our” government does today!

    Moslems and Islam are of course synonymous with terror!
    It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every politician is obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring in. If they had done even a little bit of study they would have found a bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?

    Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old still used today.
    A good book about this attack by stealth is
    https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Day-Trojan-Horse-Immigration/dp/0979492955

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    • Ann Corcoran said

      You may have noticed that I relied on this important book when I wrote my little book: Refugee Resettlement and the Hijra to America.

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  5. I’m a native NYer and I’ve seen very similar catastrophes occur in the 5 boroughs and Long Island. I live in the Upper Midwest currently and have tried to alert some of the Midwesterns who are trying to be “progressive”. They don’t know the difference between being open-minded and being a potential victim of a probable cultural takeover. They honestly have no frame of reference for this distinction. Its hard to explain it to people who haven’t yet gone “full circle”, as East-Coasters have.

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  6. aquaseanotes said

    It’s like this in Washington D.C. as well. There are many neighborhoods in the suburbs of Maryland and Virginia that look like Guatemala, or Korea, or El Salvador, or Mogadishu. There is not a single American person to be found in these neighborhoods, and the signs on the businesses are all in some foreign language. If you’re American and you go to one of these neighborhoods and try to go into one of the stores, everyone will stare at you like YOU”RE the alien. There is all kinds of criminal activity taking place, and no police cruisers to be seen. I lived in DC for years and saw this, and never did I see a police car. So much corruption and crime. There were, and still are, regularly Mexican gang assassinations, and dead bodies are recovered without heads as they have been decapitated. The bodies are always Hispanics who are in the country illegally, and they wound up murdered by rival gang members. The cops won’t do anything about it, and the local media acts like they have no idea what the motive is behind the murders.

    Oh and not to mention the recent gang rape by 2 illegal Hispanics in Maryland, who raped a 14 year old girl at her school. That’s the kind of thing that goes on, and the police and media cover it up because they don’t want to interefere with these foreign communities.
    They have completely destroyed the suburbs of Virginia and Maryland.
    If you try to drive in some of these neighborhoods you stand a good chance of getting hit by someone who doesn’t know how to drive in the US, who doesn’t have car insurance, and is possibly driving without a license. It’s very dangerous to drive in these communities as a result, because there are so many illegals there and so many law breakers who will just hit your car and drive away.

    In Annandale Virginia, for example, it’s a Korean and other kinds of Asian community, and nearly all the cars you see driving around are dinged up and have huge dents and scratches all over them. They keep running in to each other and into other things, go to a parking lot and witness them scraping each other’s cars while parking or getting in and out of their own cars – I’ve seen it. They have no regard for personal property and it’s doubtful they have auto insurance. They usually don’t speak English, either.

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  7. seabrznsun said

    Sad. No, sick better describes it.

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  8. Yeah THINK ?

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  9. Trump is not doing enough and it is sickening.

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